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A Different Take on Being Happy at Work

by Nadia on February 7, 2010 posted in Happiness,Interviews,Life,Psychology

Few weeks ago, I came across a blog post (The 100-100 Divide) written by a fellow blogger Karl Staib which consumed my thoughts for a couple of days.

The subject of the post was on motivation and it was a fascinating read for it opened my eyes to the reality that not every one feels motivated about their lives. To be candid, I never understood how people could not be motivated. Please know that I do not say this with arrogance but rather with a sense of cluelessness.

Because of my past, there was always a fire in my soul that was determined to overcome any obstacles. Lacking in motivation was never a problem. I had problems with a lot of other stuff but never with motivation.

One thing that I love about life is that there are so many different perspectives regardless of the topic. Often, we just surround ourselves with people who share out perception. However, it is always great to learn how other people view certain things in life.

So with this in mind, I contacted Karl and asked him a few questions based on his post. The discussion that resulted was just wonderful. I decided to publish the whole thing because it was really hard to edit this piece. Here is how our conversation went:

HL: As you know, I loved your post “The 100-100 Divide”. One of the many points which you discussed, which I found interesting, was what you wrote about motivation. To start off, how would you define motivation?

Motivation is an internal desire that we try to match through external circumstances. We need the external world (senses) to understand ourselves. I think all of us are highly motivated when we can find the internal connection. I’ve seen the laziest co-worker turn to an amazing gaming (PlayStation) strategist. I’ve never seen such intense focus. This guy was a lazy-butt at work, but put him in front of this game and he dominated.

We make choices that are difficult every day but there is a motivation barrier that many of us can cross and other people can’t. I believe people have trouble finding out how to match their motivation to external conditions because they are afraid. They fear what might happen when they put themselves out there to be judged.

Passion

Do you consider motivation to be different than passion or are they the same?

I believe that motivation and passion are basically the same thing, just depends on perspective. Motivation feels more like work and passion feels more like play, but you can’t have one without the other.

Passion can drive motivation, but motivation can also build passion. Someone who has two kids at home is motivated to keep her job, but not passionate about it. This same person is passionate about her children, which drives her to do a good job.

On the other side, a person who stays at a job, hates her whole life, but does it for her kids, then retires and realizes that she was passionate about the job is coming from a different angle. The motivation encouraged the passion.

In the post, you wrote about how in Japan work is a privilege so they handle it differently than we do here in America. In my experience, many people view work as a chore. Why do you think we have that mentality? Do you think that is because half of our population does not love their jobs?

People view work as a chore because of the perceived lack of freedom. They feel that they will be happier somewhere else. I used to believe this. I job hopped in my 20’s because I thought if I could just find a job that made me happy, I would be happy. It was really my own lack on internal communication that made me unhappy. I wasn’t able to find a way to meet my own needs.

A person must first be content with who they are and who they want to be before they can extract joy from work. I think the actual work is secondary to your intrapersonal relationship. Most happy people can be content with almost any type of work. They find a way to see the positive.

I’ve found that spiritual people are good at connecting with their work because they look at the larger picture. They see how the energy that they are putting into the work is making a difference.

Being Free

Most people are afraid to use their strengths at work and create the job that will make them the happiest. They would rather sit back and wait for happiness to find them instead of making a plan and putting it into action.

If a person loves to design and this person is in the accounting department because her parents wanted her to get a sensible degree, it’s hard to align her needs with the work. This is where passion and motivation must work together. A person must be motivated enough to work on themselves at work, so they can use more of their strengths.

Not everyone can be happy in certain jobs. They can be content, but not happy. Managers must realize this because if a person is doing work that doesn’t engage them then they aren’t going to get the results that they need. When I consult with companies I advocate for them to do career counseling, so they find out what their employee’s needs are. Once a company helps the employees meet her/his own needs at work, the amazing work follows.

In my experience, many employers do not give much consideration to the fact that their employees have lives. We are expected to give our all to the company yet the company does not seem to care much about us.

You wrote that this lack of consideration forces many employees to give just 50% and I have seen that happen in various jobs that I have held. People figure why should they give so much if the boss does not care about them.

One solution which you suggested was that what needs to change is how the employees view their work. With that in mind, what would be your advice to someone who has no idea what they love to do and feels trapped at their job?

The battle with motivation is 100% mental. If a person who hates their present job worked in a concentration camp for one year then came back to their present job I bet they would love life. This internal switch was created by appreciating what was missed and how good they once had it. This will fade again if the person doesn’t keep reminding themselves how blessed they are.

We have to find that internal switch. I believe positive psychology has done a lot of great work in this area. Your readers should pick up the book “Happier” by Tal Ben-Shahar. We need to find ways to be content with where we are so we can find ways to optimize our happiness. A person who is depressed at work must believe there is some sliver of hope.

We need to create that hope ourselves. A simple technique that I like to use is taking five minutes at the end of the workday to appreciate 3 things that happened in our day. They can be small things like a co-worker’s laugh or a good cup of coffee or the ability to solve a problem for a co-worker. By making this a daily habit we can start to build our confidence and create the life that will help us become happier.

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Often unhappiness at work will trickle into other areas of someone’s life and contaminate it all. What would be your advice to prevent that from happening?

Focus on the things they can change. I know many people feel stuck at their 9 – 5 job because they feel they don’t have options. We always have options. We can quit. We can switch departments. No one is making us stay at a job. We can take night classes to find work that resonates with our needs.

We need to believe that our choices matter. I’ve talked about stuffing marketing bags by the 1,000’s on my blog. It was difficult. Back pain, boring, and my co-workers made fun of my crappy job. I could wallow in this self-pity or I could use this time to make me a stronger person. I chose to make the bag stuffing a meditation. It became a spiritual journey instead of just work. I tried to be fully present in every moment, feeling each plastic bag, relaxing with my breath, watching what thoughts would arise and where they were coming from. I also imagined the smiling faces of the people who would receive the bag full of little gifts. By doing this I opened up my happiness. I was able to see and feel the beauty in where I was at.

What made you decide to promote the concept of being happy at work?

I struggled with my own happiness at work. I hated every job I had. I now realize that I did this to motivate myself to find my true calling. The problem with this method was that I attacked my own confidence.

By working on my intrapersonal relationship at work, I built up my confidence. I started seeking opportunities to speak in public through my job. I asked to take classes to help me build my skills. I practiced 1 minute meditations to lower my stress level. I wrote in a gratitude journal. I tried to stop complaining for 30 days. Didn’t really work, but gave me perspective. I talked to people who were happy.

I tried so many things that eventually I realized that I could help other people. The best part is it’s a win-win from the employees as well as the companies. Happy people are more successful and resilient. This of course makes companies more successful and resilient.

After reading that 70% of white collar workers are unhappy I knew that I could make the working world a better place. I can’t think of anything that I would be better at and make me happier. It’s all about using strengths and passion together.

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{ 44 comments }

Henri @ Wake Up Cloud February 7, 2010 at 5:10 am

Excellent interview/Q&A. I resonate very deeply with being happy before you can be happy. I know a lot of people that are looking for happiness. I myself have not “found” happiness, but I am a lot happier by following the exact advice that can be found in this article.

It’s not really ignoring the bad stuff as it is focusing on what makes you feel good. Where your focus goes, energy flows.
.-= Henri @ Wake Up Cloud´s last blog ..How to Use Article Marketing to Increase Your Blog Subscribers =-.

Nadia February 7, 2010 at 11:29 am

Hi Henri,

Thank you so much for the positive feedback. I am happy that you enjoyed the interview.

Happiness is one of those things that means different things to different people. I spent over two decades in search of happiness. At first, I thought it was external and then I realized it was internal. I then realized it goes even deeper than that. Happiness, to me, is a state of inner peace and that is something that is cultivated. The beauty about happiness (and life) is that we each have the freedom to create our own definition of what constitutes happiness. So there is no set method or way.

Good for you for finding something that works for you. :)

Lance February 7, 2010 at 6:13 am

Nadia,
I have been reading Karl’s work for some time, and find his whole perspective to be very refreshing. So, it’s great to be here today and get a bit more insight behind it all.

For me, there’s a big connection to really believing that what I am doing is making a difference. And that can be something big or something small. In fact, I think the “small” items can really be very meaningful – things like just putting a smile on another co-worker’s face, for instance. That small thing, that might not even be related fully to your “job function” can provide a deeper level of passion for your job. So, it’s realizing that I CAN do this, I can make a difference – daily. Perhaps part of that is mindset. Are we starting each day, believing that this day will bring more opportunities to make that difference?

Great thoughts here today!!
.-= Lance´s last blog ..Sunday Thought For The Day =-.

Nadia February 7, 2010 at 11:33 am

Hi Lance,

You hit on an important point about how so many of us want to make a difference. I think society places a certain expectation that it is big things that make a difference. The irony is that everything does make a difference. Every action that we do creates a ripple effect. The problem is that we don’t see life from that perspective. Every single action we do impacts the world on some level. We are that powerful.

I think it is vital that we start to become more conscious of how we engage in life as opposed to being so focused on what we think is lacking. So much of life is a matter of perception. :)

Steven | The Emotion Machine February 7, 2010 at 9:51 am

Lengthy interview but it kept my interests so I read it all through. Great questions Nadia. I really like Karl’s cross-comparison on motivation and passion. I’m also glad to see him recommend Tal Ben-Sahar’s book “Happier” (although I haven’t read the book myself I have seen Ben-Sahar’s Harvard Lectures and he is a really smart dude).

Very interesting stuff! I felt inspired while reading this. On the subject of happiness however, I like to see it as a way of seeing, and not something that we get when we meet a certain set of conditions. So…what differentiates me from Karl is I DO believe that we can sit in silence and find happiness. Happiness is an outlook…you can’t plan for it, you have to learn to see it.
.-= Steven | The Emotion Machine´s last blog ..The Uses And Abuses Of Setting Deadlines =-.

Nadia February 7, 2010 at 11:39 am

Hi Steven,

I always love to have lengthy interviews because I think it creates a space to cover as much as possible. I have tried to have short and sweet interviews and I always felt something was lacking. It is one of those blogging dilemmas. That said, I am happy you enjoyed it.

My views on certain things that Karl wrote about are somewhat different. I personally think it is better to go after your passion then simply finding a way to tolerate a job that you do not love. However, that is just me and each person has to do what feels right to them.

Like you, I do think a person can find happiness in sitting in silence. I have some blissful moments just sitting in silence and being in the moment. I also agree with you that happiness is an outlook. For me, happiness is a state of inner peace. That took time to achieve and it is a matter of perception. So I totally agree with what you wrote.

Jay Schryer February 7, 2010 at 10:51 am

This is very interesting, and empowering.

While I do believe that it is possible to find happiness in any job, I think it is much better to find something that really resonates with you. Once you find that, the motivation and passion come naturally, I think. In my opinion, that’s much better than trying to force yourself to be passionate and motivated with just any job.
.-= Jay Schryer´s last blog ..My Dream Job…Really? =-.

Nadia February 7, 2010 at 11:41 am

Hi Jay,

I totally agree with you and that is my outlook too. I think to force oneself to tolerate a job is a band-aid solution that will work in the short term but not in the long run. I talk from experience…band-aid solutions NEVER are wise. However, that is just me and each person has to find a way that works for them.

That is why I think it is so important to have discussions with those who hold a different view. There is always something to learn from such exchanges and I am thrilled that Karl was kind of enough to answer my questions.

lena February 7, 2010 at 11:01 am

I really enjoyed reading this. Happiness at work is such an important and under-addressed issue. I think so many people are living lives of “quiet desperation” because they feel trapped at their jobs. Raising the issue and educating people on how to deal with their dissatisfaction is a great way to raise the collective happiness! I have been struggling with this issue at my job and am taking steps to shift what I do. Part of it for me was convincing myself I deserved to be happy at my job and that it was possible.
.-= lena´s last blog ..Invention of Lying: A Review =-.

Nadia February 7, 2010 at 11:47 am

Hi Lena,

This is one subject that I think so many people struggle with in life. Not many people love what they do and many feel stuck at jobs they hate. This is one area that I have struggled with for all of my life. What is interesting is that I grew up in a house where my dad loves his work and would have done it for free. He has never once complained about his job and he just loves every aspect of it.

My mother was the total opposite. She did not work at a job that was her passion and she simply found a way to tolerate it. As a kid, I was fascinated with my dad because he was so unusual since he truly loved his job. For me, I wanted to be like him but I had no idea how.

Now I am getting clear on the whole issue and realize that on some level you just have to take a risk and go for what you love. As I said in one reply to a comment, band-aid solutions (meaning forcing yourself to tolerate your job) just never work in the long run. I talk from experience. However, each person has to do what feels right. I do think a big factor in lack of happiness at work is due to the fact that not many people know what they are passionate about and that many people think it is normal to believe that dreams do not come true.

Risk is a big factor when it comes to pursuing your passion. And that is something not many people want to do which is understandable. So I think it is a collection of issues that vary from person to person. We just each have to be brutally honest with ourselves and see why we are so unhappy. Things happen for a reason. We don’t become unhappy for no reason. Once we know the reasons, then we can start doing what we can to move forward and get closer to what we love.

And yes, you (and everyone else on the planet) deserve to be happy!

Laura Hegfield February 7, 2010 at 11:02 am

Hi Nadia,
Great questions and responses. I’m forwarding a link to this post to several friends who I hope will find it beneficial.
.-= Laura Hegfield´s last blog ..Rainy Day Abstracts & Angels =-.

Nadia February 7, 2010 at 11:48 am

Hi Laura,

Thank you so much for spreading the word! I really appreciate it.

Hope all is awesome!

J.D. Meier February 7, 2010 at 2:42 pm

Excellent interview and I like the focus.

I’ve found the keys to be living your values and finding the blend between passion, profit, and value.
.-= J.D. Meier´s last blog ..Top 10 Lessons Learned in Spirituality =-.

Nadia February 7, 2010 at 3:00 pm

Hi JD,

Thank you so much for the positive feedback. :)

Interesting point about the importance of living your values. I believe in that too. It is important to know what we value and what makes our heart sing. Life is meant to be an enjoyable journey and not a chore or burden.

Wilma Ham February 7, 2010 at 5:50 pm

Hi Nadia and Karl,
What I get to see is that a job is an external factor and they never can influence the way we feel about life. Now, that took me a long time to realize because my ego was NOT having that.
My ego wanted to blame the boss, my job, and everything else for that matter.
If we do not know how to be joyful from the inside out and go beyond teh ego, no job can make us joyful and THAT is of course the sad part of people who think it can.
They chase the career rainbow and will never find it.
I agree that people too often think they are stuck when they are not.
My youngest daughter, one year into a corporate high flying career, felt stuck. After only one year of corporate nonsense and not yet having discovered her own strength, she felt horribly frustrated and deflated.
It was not until she experimented with applying for other jobs, looking outside the box with my help, that she got to see she was NOT stuck.
But as you say, “I think the actual work is secondary to your intrapersonal relationship. Most happy people can be content with almost any type of work.”

To get there requires introspection and daring to see that things can be done differently and then it takes learning and experiencing how to do things differently in a way that suits YOU!
Introspection needs guidance and thus intentionally seeking mentors either within or outside the work environment is a great way to stay sane and joyful and make the most of (working) life.
Love Wilma
.-= Wilma Ham´s last blog ..When is ‘enough’ enough? =-.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 12:55 pm

Hi Wilma,

It is interesting how the topic of work can generate all kinds of thoughts and feelings. I do think it is one area of life that is somewhat of a mystery. Some people are in love with their jobs and the rest are not. Actually, the majority are not.

What is fascinating to me is that when we are in school, we are not taught to have careers but rather to find a way to survive. The whole presentation of the issue is kind of bleak.

I think another problem is that people do not view work as an extension of who they are. It is treated as a separate entity. I have done this too. Work was one catergory and my personal life was another. The reality is that everything we do is an extension of ourselves. So we take ourselves where ever we go.

As I switch career paths, it has become really evident to me that our perception of careers as a calling is non-existant. Financial worries take precedence and that causes people to do things that they do not love.

What matters most about life is how we live and that does include the work we do. We are responisble for our choices and that includes how we are when we are at the office. We each have skills and talents that should be put to use and if they are not, we become stagnant. I think it is really important that we pick jobs that reflect our potential or at least is in alignment with who we are.

It took me quite some time to see all of this but I think it is really important to recognize that work is not a death sentence…it is a ticket to amazing possibilities. We just need to know our potential and what kind of gig would suit are skills and talents.

Love and blessings to you!

Sonia February 7, 2010 at 8:35 pm

Nadia, I read this post at least 3 times. I read little by little and and i’m trying to understand what Karl is saying in his answers. I truly enjoyed this post and thanks so much for sharing with us. I am just hooked on this beautiful article and left me pondering with myself! :)
.-= Sonia´s last blog ..Chill out in summer with Shrikhand Puri! =-.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 12:56 pm

Hi Sonia,

You are most welcome! I am thrilled that you loved the article and that it gave you some things to think about! :)

Karl Staib - Work Happy Now February 7, 2010 at 9:23 pm

What a wonderful community that you have here. Everyone is so encouraging and thoughtful.

I like what Lena said about educating people. We have to want to learn how to connect with our work, build better relationships, and improve our selves in the process. Each day is a gift that can either help make us stronger or tear down our confidence. It’s our choice to find the right perspective.

It does take work, but there are so many great resources that can help us improve ourselves so we can find work that resonate with our souls. It’s our choice. When we stop giving the power to others to make us happy then we take control of our own happiness.

Nadia, thank you so much for interviewing me. Your questions have helped me get a better of my own work happiness.
.-= Karl Staib – Work Happy Now´s last blog ..How Can I Help You in 2010? =-.

Sonia February 8, 2010 at 2:08 am

Hello Karl, Thanks for your wonderful answers. It really helps to everyone in different perspectives.
Many thanks again! :)
.-= Sonia´s last blog ..Chill out in summer with Shrikhand Puri! =-.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 12:59 pm

Hi Karl,

I am so blessed to have such wonderful readers…words cannot adequately describe the gratitude I feel to have such wonderful readers.

And you are most welcome for the interivew. I am happy that my questions were of help. I tend to ask deep questions because I think it is important to get to the heart of the matter and see what others see. I really think it is important to be exposed to as many points of view as possible. There is always something to learn and I love to learn. I also have to thank you for being open to my questions and sharing your thoughts with all of us. :)

I also agree with you that we are in charge of our own happiness. Many times people do not know what truly makes them happy because we are not taught to seek happiness or to even consider the possibility that our definition of happiness may be different than what is considered normal. There is so much pressure to be accepted that people forget to be true to who they are.

Jannie Funster February 7, 2010 at 9:28 pm

Karl is a real sweetie.
So interesting and inspirational about the Japanese viewing work as a priviledge, not a chore. I think it all goes back to an attitude of gratitude that permeates and vibrates throughout a willing life.
xo

A change in perspective is always there to access, tho I readily admit for me, is easier said than done.
.-= Jannie Funster´s last blog ..Gratitude =-.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 1:02 pm

Hi Jannie,

Karl is definitely a real sweetie.

I agree with you about how cool it is that the Japanese view work as a privilege and not a chore. Perspective definitely does make a difference. Often what is behind what we consider change is only a change in perspective.

And gratitude is vital! Without gratitude, a person cannot truly be happy….at least that is my observation. :)

Jannie Funster February 7, 2010 at 9:34 pm

sometimes easier said than done, I meant to say. (cut my comment short with this iPhone again.)
Yet, a switch can be pulled to change a grumpy unyielding mood into one that is buyant and giving if we are unhappy with our work. It really is a choice. And if we just can’t find any joy at all in the job, as has been pointed out, we are never stuck. We can find what we are truly passionate about.

xo
.-= Jannie Funster´s last blog ..Gratitude =-.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 1:03 pm

Hi Jannie,

No worries about the comment being cut short. :)

You are right…we definitely can find what we are passionate about in life. In my experience, we already know what we are passionate about but we get in our own way with fear or doubt or some other kind of limiting thought.

That said, there are people who may not know what they love to do and have no idea how to discover it. Fortunately, all the answers we seek are already within us…we just have to take a look.

Hope all is awesome! :)

Tim February 7, 2010 at 11:04 pm

Hi Nadia and Karl:

Great interview…there’s so much I could identify with in this article: Karl, like you I hopped around a lot from job to job in my 20′s looking for a place that felt right and fearing that I would get stuck in a job that I didn’t love. Good to hear you’re now working on something that is meaningful for you. Karl, you also touched on something most corporations don’t really do too well, IMHO, is career development. Once you (we) get hired in a particular job at a company, it often seems that you (we) are expected to stay in that same position with little regard to any higher aspirations. I would respect any company much more if they took “big picture” career development for its employees into consideration. After all, a happy employee is a productive employee.

Nadia, thanks for sharing this interview…there’s a lot of good stuff in there. Thanks also for allowing us to get to know Karl a little better.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 1:08 pm

Hi Tim,

I am so happy that you loved the interview. I really love to share different points of view and expose people to all kinds of ideas. I think learning is a never ending process and I love to learn so I just want to share what I discover.

You raised a great point about how there is a lack of career development in most jobs. I have had many friends complain about that and have noticed that too in various jobs that I have had. It is kind of sad and weird because I think in the past, there was such a thing has having a career. Now we just seem to have jobs. Careers, in my mind, are more profound and are equivalent to a calling which like I said, seems non-existant these days.

Maybe the lack of career development is because companies no longer care to invest in people, they are more focused on profit without having to spend too much money on employees. So the focus is more on money than on people and as a result, employees are ignored and thus feel stuck.

Hilary February 8, 2010 at 4:43 am

Hi Nadia .. and Karl – a really interesting post & exactly how I felt often at work. I loved your description of stuffing mail bags, but realising that if you took it to a meditation level then you achieved more happiness satisfaction in a number of ways. That’s such a good example for us all to use …

“I tried to be fully present in every moment, feeling each plastic bag, relaxing with my breath, watching what thoughts would arise and where they were coming from. I also imagined the smiling faces of the people who would receive the bag full of little gifts. By doing this I opened up my happiness. I was able to see and feel the beauty in where I was at.”

Thanks to both of you .. such a good interview chat session for us all to follow … Hilary
.-= Hilary´s last blog ..Groundhog Day, Candlemas and Jannie the First … =-.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 1:10 pm

Hi Hilary,

Glad you loved the interview. Karl did a wonderful job in answering my questions that is why it was so hard to edit this piece. So I figured it was best to just share the whole thing.

As for the quote you shared…it goes to show you that a person can meditate any where. :)

suzen February 8, 2010 at 1:12 pm

Hi Nadia! I appreciate you featuring Karl – what a wonderfully motivating and uplifting presence he has! The work he is doing is SO important and so needed too! Great interview, Nadia!

Hi Karl! I’ve run into sooo many young people who I believe have set themselves up for unhappiness because they have such high expectations, unfounded and unreasonable as I see it, but that is hard to explain to them – AND they don’t want to hear about it from an old lady like me! ha! Like what do I possibly know about TODAY’s environment? Karl, it hasn’t changed in decades. People have a tendency to look for happiness “out there” (be it a job, relationship whatever) like it is something they GET from “someplace/someone/someTHING” and get so frustrated and UNhappy in this quest. I love how you are working to teach people, especially the younger generation, that happiness comes from the INSIDE out, and not the other way around.
Hugs
suzen
.-= suzen´s last blog ..Dr. Feelgood on Feeling Good =-.

Karl Staib - Work Happy Now February 8, 2010 at 3:14 pm

Hi Suzen, You are so right. People do have a tendency to look for external happiness especially at work, (i.e. more money, promotions) but they are usually left feeling disheartened. The people who go after work that lights their internal motivation seem to live much more fulfilling lives.

Many people don’t know what makes them happy. They never took the time to sit down and listen to what their needs truly are. It’s why I talk about the importance of reflection. By taking a few minutes every day to reflect is such a powerful tool; we need to apply this more often, so we can make smart adjustments that actually help us enjoy life more.
.-= Karl Staib – Work Happy Now´s last blog ..How Can I Help You in 2010? =-.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 3:18 pm

Hi SuZen,

Thank you for the positive feedback on the interview. Karl is definitely doing an amazing job at wanting to help others find happiness at work.

And amen for happiness being found on the inside! ;)

Lana - DreamFollowers Blog February 8, 2010 at 4:14 pm

This is an amazing inteview Nadia. Everything Karl said was revolving around awareness. When we are aware and present we can find happiness in anything we do. Even the most mundane tasks have meaning. So true. So simple. So powerful. Thank you for this great reminder Nadia and Karl!
.-= Lana – DreamFollowers Blog´s last blog ..How To Get In The Flow or How To Connect With Your Inner Genius =-.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 5:18 pm

Hi Lana,

I am happy that you enjoyed the interview! Awareness is so important. I always say that every thing always boils down to perception which is a form of awareness.

Hope all is awesome! :)

Joy February 8, 2010 at 4:58 pm

Gosh. What a fascinating interview. So many amazing points.
I think your job is an extension of yourself so should be something you are passionate about. It is where you most likely spend a chunk of your time, and if you are displeased there it has ripple effects throughout all areas in your life. If you are pleased with your job, feel like you are giving back in some way or making a difference, that also has ripple effects throughout your life. And I think in some way encourages your fellow co-workers to give and do the best they can.
I enjoy my actual job, just not the politics involved, so I ignore the politics and let my essence shine. And think of all of the opportunities my position and income give me in life. And how all I am at home contributes to who I am at work. An amazing cycle when I allow it to flow.
.-= Joy´s last blog ..Faith =-.

Nadia February 8, 2010 at 5:19 pm

Hi Joy,

Thank you so much for the positive feedback!

I agree with you that your job is an extension of yourself. Not everyone sees that. To be candid, I did not get that until recently as I have been aligning my outer life to match my inner life. It is wonderful that you have this awareness and have created such harmony in your life. You go, girl! :)

Farouk February 9, 2010 at 3:41 am

motivation and passion are almost the same but passion is a much more powerful force, if someone is passionate about his job then surely he will excel in it and be happy

Nadia February 9, 2010 at 10:42 am

Hi Farouk,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I agree with how you define passion and that if someone loves what they do, they will excel at their job. And since they are doing their job out of love, there will be a greater sense of joy while at work.

Personally, I view motivation and passion as being different but that is just me. To me, motivation is the driving force behind an action. It is the energy with which you do things. So a person may not love their job but they are motivated to find something better so they make the best out of where they are and keep moving forward. Passion, in my mind, is a form of love and it is something that fulfills your soul and heart. It consumes your being. So when we follow our passion, we are going after a job that is not a job but rather something that is fun.

Thank you for bringing this topic up…the distinction between motivation and passion. :)

Evita February 10, 2010 at 10:59 am

Hi Nadia and Karl

Great interview! Nadia I loved the questions you asked! And Karl, great responses.

I was particularly interested in how you viewed passion versus motivation. And how neat to hear how Japan views work, yeah definitely not how most of us see it here….
Karl, because you encountered a difficult time in your work happiness, you woke up to a new way of being, and are now helping more people and being of such service to others – thank you for that!
.-= Evita´s last blog ..Moving Beyond the Holy Day to Holiness and Wholeness Now =-.

Nadia February 10, 2010 at 12:08 pm

Hi Evita,

Thank you so much for the positive feedback! Karl did an awesome job with his answers. It made it hard to edit the piece so that is why I published the whole thing.

Hope all is awesome! :)

Nate February 10, 2010 at 3:16 pm

Wow…excellent interview as I am struggling with the exact question you ask – happiness at work. I’m beginning to realize that there’s no external source (job, etc.) that can make us happy…it starts within us. Sure, we might not actually like or enjoy what we’re doing, but the key is to take action and look deeper. Moving to a new job most likely won’t help (as indicated in the responses to your questions above). Instead it’s better to be introspective:

1. What do I like to do, or what am I good at? (Strenghtsfinder is an excellent book for uncovering this).
2. Is there any way I can change my current role to make it more in alignment with my needs and wants (again, action needs to be taken by the individual. Unfortunately many wait for something to happen instead of being pro-active).

Being creative is helpful. Create your own role at work. If some need is missing and you think you can fill it due to your strengths, then do it.

Finally, I don’t think anything is wrong with 9-5 jobs. There’s all this talk about lifestyle design out there, which primarily focuses on building an internet business. Neither pursuits are better than the other. You choose to be happy, it’s not the job that makes you happy.
.-= Nate´s last blog ..Overcoming Our Attachment To Thoughts =-.

Nadia February 10, 2010 at 6:25 pm

Hi Nate,

Thank you so much for the positive feedback and for sharing your thoughts. :)

Ever since I was a kid, I was fascinated with happiness. When I was 25, I had a mid-life crisis and decided it was time to go in search for happiness. I had every external thing I wanted and I was miserable so it just seemed logical to try really hard to find happiness. I ended up going on an intense spiritual journey and realized that happiness comes from within.

Once we have it on the inside, then we are able to spread that happiness to our outside world. Each person goes at a rate that is suitable for them.

I do think work is one area that society has messed up on so many levels. You are right…there is nothing wrong with 9-5 jobs. Each person has to find a way that works for them. That said, I do think we have to love what we do.

Yes, the job will not make us happy but we have to love the job on some level or we will be miserable. Some people know what they love and go after it. Other people may not know and may be cool with not knowing.

Personally, I always was determined to find a job that I loved because I grew up seeing one parent living that truth. I spent so many years doing jobs that I did not love. I found ways to love them but I never gave up on the idea of having a job that was fully in alignment with my passions.

Only in the last two months have I realized that there was a way to do what I love and make a living from it. I have no idea how it will work out but I am willing to give it a shot.

nadia February 11, 2010 at 12:27 pm

Hi Nadia,
I have a mixed feeling about his take no the matter.
I completely agree that when you have a happy heart you will enjoy the work. It’s just that I feel there should be an optimum point on this take. Because the other extreme would be that you bend yourself so much to be able to enjoy the work..

Anyway, just a thought. You know how consumed I am on this topic.. :)

Nadia February 11, 2010 at 1:17 pm

Hi Nadia,

I agree with you. My view is a different than Karl’s because I think to tolerate a job is a band-aid solution. It will work in the short term but not in the long run. It is far better, in my opinion, to do what you love instead of suffering at a job that brings you no joy. That said, each person has to find a method that works for them and I thought it would be interesting to share another perspective.

It was great to see you on here! :)

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